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Comment on A RESPONSE TO LIGON DUNCAN by curate

curate — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 05:35:49 +0000

Yes, it is an awkward sentence, so I have reworked it.

Greek is hard at first, but its worth having. Persevere to the end Shaun. )

Comment on A RESPONSE TO LIGON DUNCAN by Shaun

Shaun — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 03:00:05 +0000

Hey Roger,

Great Article! I do have a quick question:

In your sentence, “It does not present falling and drifting away as a theoretical possibility but an actual impossibility” under the heading ‘A Loss of Assurance’, did you mean to say at the end, “actual POSSIBILITY”?

I hope you are doing well mate. I am in Greek 2 and it is hard…but the Lord is faithful.

Comment on Where is the true church? by curate

curate — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:28:26 +0000

David, you have not addressed the argument in the post, or the scripture that I quoted. To merely say that the Orthodox church has clergy, therefore it has the gospel, is not an argument. It is a non-sequitur.

Comment on Where is the true church? by curate

curate — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:18:30 +0000

In the Bible an episkopos and a prebuteros are the same thing – the minister in charge of a congregation. Those are the bishops whom God entrusted the gospel to. When the episkopoi lose touch with the gospel they cease to be transmitters of the gospel. A layman with the gospel in that case is greater than the Pope, and the Patriarchs of the East.

The Orthodox Church is not in possession of the gospel, so it is not a true church of Christ. As the article states, the churches of Antioch and Constantinople have erred in matters of faith and morals. They do not teach or believe that justification is by grace alone through faith alone. By this article they show that they do not have the keys to the kingdom.

The separation of bishops from elders is a post-apostolic development, and to read it back into the scripture is pure anachronism.

Comment on Where is the true church? by David L

David L — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 06:36:23 +0000

It was to the bishops that the faith was entrusted, the people being a royal priesthood also have their part in the maintaining that faith and gospel once and for all delivered. You will not find the church without the Gospel or the Gospel without the church. They are interdependent. Clearly history shows us orders within the church, clerics themselves have no special position other than servants of the servants of God. They can be correcred by the laity.

Comment on Where is the true church? by curate

curate — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:59:45 +0000

The church is not identified by its clergy, but by the presence or otherwise of the gospel. If you have the clergy in an uninterrupted line from the apostles, but you do not have the gospel, what you have is damnation. It is the gospel, not the church, that points us to where the true church is.

Comment on Where is the true church? by David L

David L — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:47:41 +0000

The church is the pillar and ground of truth. The Orthodox church but not exclusive to the brand “Orthodox” meaning just as in scripture we have the called, the visible church with bishops and eucharist, we also have those who are not against Christ and thus for Christ. The visible church even complained to Jesus about them. The reason I became Orthodox is because I know that is where the church is (even as I can not know if my bishop’s or priest bones will line the streets of hell as St. John Chrysostoms warned. I hope the Orthodox weren’t sheep stealing but trust me in America people are getting tired of the constant fad driven evangelical Christianity and they are clamoring for something deeper and finding the faith not of Luther or Calvin (who’s churches aren’t even recongnizable in America anymore) they are find the church of Athanasius, Polycarp, Luke, and Paul. You say we have added works, no we haven’t what we did not do is change a faith once and for all delivered into a intellectual pursuit. We abide in Christ (and fail a lot but Christ picks us up), we seek to be partakers of his divine nature (and here we fail again but the good news is Christ perfects us sinners). I hear about this Orthodox church that tells people they have to do things to be saved and the same time I am being preached to that there is nothing we can do to be saved. Were are saved by the mercy and grace of God, that encompasses much more than our choosing to “be saved” in encompasses God creating in us a new man by His grace. Perhaps you are losing people from your congregation because you don’t really have a grasp on who and what they are going too. It is easier just to assume they are lost to a bunch or works righteous heretics than face that you are lacking the fullness of the faith once and for all delievered. I suggest trying to get to know the clergy at your local Orthodox church, I have many reformed friends, some who are clergy. I think no less of them than they do of me and I certainly am not going to play God and say they don’t have faith.

Comment on Did Rome give Protestants the Bible? by curate

curate — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 08:14:39 +0000

Kevin is a man who has apostatized from the Christian Faith to join the Pope. He thinks that people who take a dim view of his treachery are mean and nasty, because all he wants is to have a cozy chat with Calvinists about his exciting new discoveries.

The goal of course is to draw us away from the truth, all in the name of love.

And we are supposed to be accommodating of this Judas and his agenda, in the name of love.

Comment on Did Rome give Protestants the Bible? by Kevin

Kevin — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:49:12 +0000

Sound of crickets.

Comment on Take this test by curate

curate — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 06:26:55 +0000

LOL Ben!!!!